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	<title>Comments on: Read Chip &amp; PIN / EMV Card</title>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://nicbedford.co.uk/2010/01/27/read-chip-pin-emv-card/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris,

Interesting reading about the Kobil readers. I hadn&#039;t seen that. First, I&#039;d like to say good luck trying to read the PIN :) I think your going to have a hard time ahead of you. If my understanding is anywhere near correct, then when a user enters their PIN, it is sent to the chip, which then performs some sort of cypto hashing function on it, and compares with a hash stored on the chip. I don&#039;t believe this information is directly available from the chip! If you were to take a look at the EMVCo. specs my app essentially performs the BuildCandidateList function of the EMV process (ignoring any terminal configuration and returning all AID&#039;s it finds).

Let me know if your comment email is valid and I&#039;ll hook you up with my .net source code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>Interesting reading about the Kobil readers. I hadn&#8217;t seen that. First, I&#8217;d like to say good luck trying to read the PIN <img src='http://nicbedford.co.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think your going to have a hard time ahead of you. If my understanding is anywhere near correct, then when a user enters their PIN, it is sent to the chip, which then performs some sort of cypto hashing function on it, and compares with a hash stored on the chip. I don&#8217;t believe this information is directly available from the chip! If you were to take a look at the EMVCo. specs my app essentially performs the BuildCandidateList function of the EMV process (ignoring any terminal configuration and returning all AID&#8217;s it finds).</p>
<p>Let me know if your comment email is valid and I&#8217;ll hook you up with my .net source code.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jones-Gill</title>
		<link>http://nicbedford.co.uk/2010/01/27/read-chip-pin-emv-card/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Jones-Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nic,

Like the app - works with my kobil tri card reader (with original firmware and hacked colibri firmware).

What I am trying to do is read the pin from the card (hence the hacked FW), but your app does not seem to read this.

Perhaps I should RTFM, but I am too F* lazy to trawl through it all, but is the card pin read from the EMV card at all (in encrypted or decrypted state)?

Any help/advice would be welcome - a copy of your source code perhaps. And a &quot;clear off, I&#039;m too busy - do it yourself&quot; would be understandable.

Regards,

Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nic,</p>
<p>Like the app &#8211; works with my kobil tri card reader (with original firmware and hacked colibri firmware).</p>
<p>What I am trying to do is read the pin from the card (hence the hacked FW), but your app does not seem to read this.</p>
<p>Perhaps I should RTFM, but I am too F* lazy to trawl through it all, but is the card pin read from the EMV card at all (in encrypted or decrypted state)?</p>
<p>Any help/advice would be welcome &#8211; a copy of your source code perhaps. And a &#8220;clear off, I&#8217;m too busy &#8211; do it yourself&#8221; would be understandable.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chris.</p>
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